i believe the 
and the 
are the worst trains in the system then comes the 
they should be improved
The runs toooo far apart in timing and is somewhat a short route
the not really a train taken seriously come on its aided and transfered to every other train if the pivitol point is only on 4th Ave between Bay ridge and Atlantic
The runs to slow and everyone rather the 
people would get off the train at an express stop lets say nostrand to ride the ©to lafayette rather than catch it at Euclid or at other express stops where they probably got on